From 417407e614bc519725822a10196c45c8c4f2d8e3 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Havoc Pennington Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 05:29:38 +0000 Subject: clipboards stuff --- clipboard/clipboards.txt | 109 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 109 insertions(+) create mode 100644 clipboard/clipboards.txt diff --git a/clipboard/clipboards.txt b/clipboard/clipboards.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..91c9d06 --- /dev/null +++ b/clipboard/clipboards.txt @@ -0,0 +1,109 @@ +Historically, X clients have not handled cut-and-paste in a consistent +way, leading users to believe that X doesn't even have a working +clipboard. This isn't really accurate; there is a conventional +behavior, somewhat standardized in the ICCCM. But many apps don't +follow the conventional behavior. + +X has a thing called "selections" which are just clipboards, +essentially (implemented with an asynchronous protocol so you don't +actually copy data to them). There are three standard selections +defined in the ICCCM: PRIMARY, SECONDARY, and CLIPBOARD. + +The ICCCM defines these as follows: + + "The selection named by the atom PRIMARY is used for all com- + mands that take only a single argument and is the principal + means of communication between clients that use the selec- + tion mechanism. + + The selection named by the atom SECONDARY is used: + + o As the second argument to commands taking two arguments + (for example, "exchange primary and secondary selec- + tions") + + o As a means of obtaining data when there is a primary + selection and the user does not want to disturb it + + The selection named by the atom CLIPBOARD is used to hold + data that is being transferred between clients, that is, + data that usually is being cut and then pasted or copied and + then pasted." + +In addition, the ICCCM has a thing called "cut buffers" which most +clients no longer support. + +There are two historical interpretations of the ICCCM: + + a) use PRIMARY for mouse selection, middle mouse button paste, and + explicit cut/copy/paste menu items (Qt 2, GNU Emacs 20) + b) use CLIPBOARD for the Windows-style cut/copy/paste menu items; + use PRIMARY for the currently-selected text, even if it isn't + explicitly copied, and for middle-mouse-click (Netscape, Mozilla, + XEmacs, some GTK+ apps) + +No one ever does anything interesting with SECONDARY as far as I can +tell. + +The current consensus is that interpretation b) is correct. Qt 3 and +GNU Emacs 21 will use interpretation b), changing the behavior of +previous versions. + +The correct behavior can be summarized as follows: CLIPBOARD works +just like the clipboard on Mac or Windows; it only changes on explicit +cut/copy. PRIMARY is an "easter egg" for expert users, regular users +can just ignore it; it's normally pastable only via +middle-mouse-click. + +The rationale for this behavior is mostly that behavior a) has a lot +of problems, namely: + + - inconsistent with Mac/Windows + - confusingly, selecting anything overwrites the clipboard + - not efficient with a tool such as xclipboard + - you should be able to select text, then paste the clipboard + over it, but that doesn't work if the selection and + clipboard are the same + - the Copy menu item is useless and does nothing, + which is confusing + - if you think of PRIMARY as the current selection, + Cut doesn't make any sense since the selection simultaneously + disappears and becomes the current selection + +Application authors should follow the following guidelines to get +correct behavior: + + - selecting but with no explicit copy should only set PRIMARY, + never CLIPBOARD + + - middle mouse button should paste PRIMARY, never CLIPBOARD + + - explicit cut/copy commands (i.e. menu items, toolbar buttons) + should always set CLIPBOARD to the currently-selected data (i.e. + conceptually copy PRIMARY to CLIPBOARD) + + - explicit paste commands should paste CLIPBOARD, not PRIMARY + + - possibly contradicting the ICCCM, clients don't need to support + SECONDARY, though if anyone can figure out what it's good + for they should feel free to use it for that + + - cut buffers are evil; they only support ASCII, they don't + work with many clients, and they require data to be + copied to the X server. Therefore clients should avoid + using cut buffers and use only selections. + +Apps that follow these guidelines give users a simple mental model to +understand what's going on. PRIMARY is the current selection. Middle +button pastes the current selection. CLIPBOARD is just like on +Mac/Windows. You don't have to know about PRIMARY if you're a newbie. + +I don't think there's a sane mental model if we collapse everything +into PRIMARY and ignore clipboard, see rationale above. + +A remaining somewhat odd thing about X selections is that exiting the +app you did a cut/copy from removes the cut/copied data from the +clipboard, since the selection protocol is asynchronous and requires +the source app to provide the data at paste time. The solution here +would be a standardized protocol for a "clipboard daemon" so that apps +could hand off their data to a daemon when they exit. -- cgit v1.2.3-70-g09d2 From c93d9bc85d7bc76c7ece39f3b7fb33cfab807c2d Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Havoc Pennington Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 01:39:40 +0000 Subject: updates --- clipboard/clipboards.txt | 9 ++++++++- 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/clipboard/clipboards.txt b/clipboard/clipboards.txt index 91c9d06..682467e 100644 --- a/clipboard/clipboards.txt +++ b/clipboard/clipboards.txt @@ -106,4 +106,11 @@ app you did a cut/copy from removes the cut/copied data from the clipboard, since the selection protocol is asynchronous and requires the source app to provide the data at paste time. The solution here would be a standardized protocol for a "clipboard daemon" so that apps -could hand off their data to a daemon when they exit. +could hand off their data to a daemon when they exit. Or +alternatively, you can run an application such as xclipboard which +constantly "harvests" clipboard selections. + +References: + - the ICCCM, obviously + - http://www.xfree86.org/~keithp/talks/selection.ps + - http://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html -- cgit v1.2.3-70-g09d2 From 791f359c0a03dd36e716a9a040a2e4ea620b4059 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Heinrich Wendel Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:21:05 +0000 Subject: added extension spec --- clipboard/clipboard-extensions.txt | 39 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 39 insertions(+) create mode 100644 clipboard/clipboard-extensions.txt diff --git a/clipboard/clipboard-extensions.txt b/clipboard/clipboard-extensions.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..ceed6ca --- /dev/null +++ b/clipboard/clipboard-extensions.txt @@ -0,0 +1,39 @@ + + Selection target _NET_MAX_SELECTION_SIZE + + When a client encounters target _NET_MAX_SELECTION_SIZE in + SelectionRequest event, it should use its value as a limit for the + following targets in the same request (i.e. the request should be of type + MULTIPLE). The + _NET_MAX_SELECTION_SIZE target should be always the first target in the + MULTIPLE request. + + The target _NET_MAX_SELECTION_SIZE is a side-effect target, as described + in ICCCM section 2.6.3. When handling this target, the matching property on + the requestor window should be of type XA_INTEGER, format 32, with 2 + elements. + + If the selection owner's connection to the X server is local, the first + element is used as the limit, otherwise the second element is used as the + limit. A local connection is identified by a value of XDisplayString() with + the first character ':', for example, ":0.0". A value of -1 for either + element means no limit. + + The value should limit the sum of the sizes in the request, not separately + each of them. The client should reject subsequent targets if they would + cause the total amount of data transferred for all targets to exceed the + limit. Note that there is no requirement that if one target is rejected, + all other targets will be rejected or all that subsequent targets will be + rejected. + + Clients are not required to limit the data size precisely to the given + value. If the computation of the data size would be expensive for the + client, a certain reasonable inaccurancy is allowed. In other words, if the + client for various reasons doesn't know exact size of the data to be + transfered, it should try to estimate it, rather than transfering data with + size that is possibly magnitudes larger. + + The intent of this target is to avoid unwanted large transfers, so it + should be requsted only by xclipboard-like tools. They should use a request + of type MULTIPLE with _NET_MAX_SELECTION_SIZE as the first target in the + MULTIPLE request, with the requested target(s) after it. -- cgit v1.2.3-70-g09d2 From e7b4103d0019c6ccfe2651ba63db8cf09e19ee80 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Lubos Lunak Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:56:05 +0000 Subject: + - explicit cut/copy commands should always set both CLIPBOARD and + PRIMARY, even when copying doesn't involve a selection (e.g. a + "copy url" -option which explicitly copies an url without the + url being selected first) + + - a selection becoming unselected should never unset PRIMARY --- clipboard/clipboards.txt | 7 +++++++ 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+) diff --git a/clipboard/clipboards.txt b/clipboard/clipboards.txt index 682467e..610083e 100644 --- a/clipboard/clipboards.txt +++ b/clipboard/clipboards.txt @@ -82,8 +82,15 @@ correct behavior: should always set CLIPBOARD to the currently-selected data (i.e. conceptually copy PRIMARY to CLIPBOARD) + - explicit cut/copy commands should always set both CLIPBOARD and + PRIMARY, even when copying doesn't involve a selection (e.g. a + "copy url" -option which explicitly copies an url without the + url being selected first) + - explicit paste commands should paste CLIPBOARD, not PRIMARY + - a selection becoming unselected should never unset PRIMARY + - possibly contradicting the ICCCM, clients don't need to support SECONDARY, though if anyone can figure out what it's good for they should feel free to use it for that -- cgit v1.2.3-70-g09d2